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Riff3x from Music Mogul to Clothing Brand; In Motion, Talks Rae Sremmurd and Lil Baby, Talks Entrepreneurship
Step behind the scenes of the music industry with Riff3x, where we uncover the strategic thinking and pure grit it takes to break into the biz. Learn how a stint in prison became the unlikely catalyst for a vibrant musical career, employing nothing but GarageBand and a will of steel. Riff3x's powerful message of believing in oneself and having faith resonates throughout, as we celebrate the grind, the courage to trust in one's own journey, and the rejection of external validation. Hear about the calculated risks and networking savvy that led to game-changing collaborations, and the birth of 'In Motion'—a clothing line that stands as a testament to the hustle of life and the relentless push against the odds.
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Speaker 2:And then niggas eatin' booty for free. Yeah, I'm touching shit. I'm touching shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, hey, hey, baby. So we got to make that a little clip.
Speaker 3:That's funny, no serious, you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying, why not? I'll get the money out of this.
Speaker 1:Yo, yo yo. What's up man, what's up man. We back it's Cluny Say Uh podcast. I'm Chad.
Speaker 3:This is Bone.
Speaker 1:I'm Josh and man. We got a very, very special guest man, Barry, One of my family man, but he's still one of my favorite people, Period. Yes sir. We got the boy riffed three times, three times, dude what it do Three times in the building.
Speaker 2:Hey I gotta stop you right quick bro, you got me so fresh.
Speaker 1:I came out and told him.
Speaker 2:I said y'all can't do nothing with me right now. I'm emotional. I'm emotional man and it's comfortable Like you're having emotion and you ain't in motion.
Speaker 1:Right Make a make sense.
Speaker 2:That's why I be trying to tell them.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna get started. Man, so like, for the people that don't know, man like, just tell them about your upbringing. Man Like, like, what made riff riff?
Speaker 2:Man. What made me me? Uh, I joined out the porch. My mama told me when I was eight it was seven or eight months I was in the stroll, I was in a walker and they left me on the porch and they went in the house to go get something. And when she came back outside I was in the middle of the street. So I joined out the porch. It's like seven, eight months. I'm in the middle of the street. Am I a walker? You know what I'm saying? So she already knew, like I know, what type of child he's gonna be. He's gonna be hot. Now.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. So I've been out here since then. You know what I'm saying. Like 13 when coming home staying out late. I've been out every OG they call itself an OG or every huncho around here they call itself a huncho. They know me, they know you. Yes, I mean been out here, been doing it. Ain't bar in the curb, none of it. Been out here, been having it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I ain't never asked nobody for nothing and nobody never gave me nothing. I ain't never looked for no deal. If a person said this is what they price, I pay they price. Okay, I've always been my own man. I've always been my own big dog. I've always been having it, been pulling out money. I'm like a soldier, but I was like one of the first ones. I've been doing it. I can vouch no route, no cap in the route. Right here I'm telling you I've been doing it. You know what I'm saying. I've been freestyle and I've been doing it Like you see it, christ, I've been doing it way ahead of my time, way back then Still here yeah.
Speaker 2:It's still things I be thinking about, or I might show somebody and be like bro, this right here, I'm telling you, if somebody do this right here and do this right here, right there, this shit will be big. And then probably about a couple of months later, the same thing I just said. You probably hear it on the radio, but you already had thought about it.
Speaker 2:But I had already thought about it, so my mind always been ahead. You know what I'm saying I always see shit before it happened. Right, yeah, so that's just what made me that's dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said, I can just remember being around you growing up. I was a young man.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:He'll tell you I was probably the baddest Ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever, yeah, whatever you say about TA I'm finna, believe I'm already like. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Bad.
Speaker 2:I know when I see him he finna do something. Yeah, Like I always tell him about the one story that was like the funniest story he ever did. You know how Frunstreet got that big old hill going down, like if you coming from the Elps.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, back then Frunstreet used to be thick. Yeah, cause everywhere the man ride on a bike. You know, back then we ride on bikes. They probably ain't even got no brakes and we're stopping with our shoes. Okay, man ride on a bike. I know he doing about 60 miles coming down that he finna come apart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he get like probably three foot from a car and just jump off the ground. That's just slamming the back of a car Like boom. And I'm looking at him like come man, you didn't have to do that. Like man, he probably just let the bike down. He just like I don't care. He was just so bad man, that man, that don't care.
Speaker 1:Look, if something happened to your car about 15 years ago, it was Chan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:I need that 300. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was one of them. Rough ones, yeah, he was so like, so, like. What got you into doing the music? Oh, like, what did your love of music come from?
Speaker 2:Like my love of music came from. I always liked the music and I used to hang around older. I used to hang with my older cousin and we used to be freestyle like on every beat. It didn't matter what beat it was it can be blues, it can be jazz, it can be R&B, it can be rock or whatever. We always freestyle off any beat. So we just with freestyle. I really want no rapper type, you know what I'm saying. I was just freestyle like having fun type shit. So I ended up getting locked up in 2006. So when I got out I had everybody. When I got out they was like letting people they route get on stage. I think the halls was like they was popping.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where you at.
Speaker 2:I got out probably like 2010,. Something like that.
Speaker 2:But the halls, they were popping like every time I go to the club they would let them get on stage and shit. So I'm like, and they're no, my niggas, you know what I'm saying. We just from different side of the town, but they're my niggas. So I'm like, shit, I'm finna, put me something together and get on stage. I know, can't nobody pop it like me? You know what I'm saying. We weren't using the word pop it back then. You know what I'm saying. So I had that one. The kid had the little map books that were going to school. They had the little map we had. We decided to find my D because D was young, he was still in high school and he had like a the map book or whatever Garage band, yeah, the garage band. So we cooked up a hole, we cook up the mob PNG city on the garage band. So we ended up dropping that joint. Like I said, everything I ever did, I always did it my mind always think big.
Speaker 2:I don't be thinking like. I always think like wave fuzzle, you know what I'm saying. So when I did, I'm already knowing like I'm going to be big Cause my mind. You know what I'm saying. So we put the mob PNG out. Everybody around town was screaming. Like every time you see any one of us they gone. You going to hear some mob? I hear that like they were putting the emphasis on it. So everywhere we go we were popping it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So it was me, famous D and work shout out to work free, young work. But work ended up getting locked up Like he stayed locked up, you know what I'm saying. And D kind of like fell back from the music. So I always been a freestyler so I just kept going doing music. I was going to my cousin house, roman house, making music, going back and forth over there Every day. I just started doing it every day, every day, every day. So you know it's just like going to the gym. If you play basketball, you go to the gym and you shoot ball every day. You probably couldn't shoot no jumper at first, but then you go on every day. Now your jumper getting peer and peer and peer. So now my skills was getting peer and peer. So it was just like making it easy.
Speaker 2:I was knocking out like 15 songs probably an hour. I'm knocking out. I got so much music right now Doing everything in first take. Yeah, first take. I'm going in like the punch punching in. Folks didn't even know nothing about punching in. I was been punching in, doing I've been doing all it like cause I I had gold in my mouth and I already taught I'm a country fuck, so I already taught. Like you really can't understand me if I'm like when I be rapping, you probably can't understand me. If I'm going all the way through a song, you ain't gonna be able to understand me, cause I'm a trip on some of my words. So I used to tell a ramen like I'm a jet, piece it in, like I'm going to say this word. I'm going to say this bar right here, clear. Then stop me right there. Then I'm going to come in and say this part right here, clear. Until I just started forming a habit of doing Right.
Speaker 2:And now it started like it sound wave better and I'm keeping the hype going. So that's what I was doing. So I was in the studio, I'm making songs, songs back to back. And then my cousin, pnas, had told Strem to come to Atlanta. So when they came to Atlanta, when they went to Atlanta, they wouldn't, be yet Now they wouldn't even be yet and the creative thing about it, they were still out of state boys, yeah, they were still out of state, boys when.
Speaker 2:I got out, they were still you know what I'm saying, they were still out of state boys, but they were older, cause I used to go over there, over there, cribbed the hollet floor. They, dad, you know what I'm saying. So, but they used to be in the back room making music. But when I got out of prison they was a little older, they was going to the clubs now. So I used to see them, but they weren't even you know, they was just out of state boys. They weren't even on the main screen yet. But I had went to Atlanta one time it was me, jj. Well, jj was staying in Atlanta, it was me, craig, I want to say YK Drow and somebody else it was word and somebody else. But we went to Atlanta and we went to stay at old JJ house. He was standing alone and he had the DJ boy and he was telling me P Nasty told him to DJ. So the whole time we on the trip he stood up holland, p Nasty, p Nasty, like roof. You know, p Nasty, I'm like man, I don't know. Niggin, I ain't P Nasty. Yeah, you do, we weren't calling P Nasty, we were calling them PR. You know I'm saying so. I'm like I don't know, no P Nasty.
Speaker 2:So the day we left I'm chilling there when I was smoking this. I'm smoking and usually when I smoke I get quiet, I just be like looking in the sky. So I'm right, I'm in the front seat, I'm looking in the sky. Then it just dawned on me. I said, man, turn the car around. Hey, what you talking about. I said man, don't who P Nasty up that Pierre? I like man, we got to go see him. They like man, we got to take the runner car back. I'm like man, yeah, no, we got to go holla in my cousin. Man, he'll start. It is together. Like we used to beat on buckets. Before he even made a beat, like actually beat on a keyboard or anything, we used to just get like a bucket, like a One of them buckets. Like you put pain in.
Speaker 2:Look at me to like get sticks and beat on them, just like we was in a band type shit. And then he ended up getting the keyboard for Christmas and he was like our freestyling then. And he was like I'm gonna make the beat, cuz you just freestyle it was up when you got a keyboard. Yeah, cuz we making, we we didn't have nothing to actually like record on. It was like a love Recorder I don't think y'all remember Johnny about that big and it was like a love. You ain't got record it got record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you could just talking into it like this, so I used to talk into it while he's making a beat. It was so ghetto, though, but it was hard Back, then you know so yeah, so boom, I end up, we end up getting to the crib and PNN's the car. I mean. He was like Can I speak to real, I'm like this young. He was like I was like who are they? He was like a deep, yeah, I'm like man, it's I know P I. He said this, I know real.
Speaker 1:I like this year real.
Speaker 2:He like no, I ain't. He was like the real. Five know a freestyle right now. So, boom, I saw our freestyle and he was like man, what's up? So we start chopping it up or whatever. So, boom, I end up, they end up going down with him. So probably about a couple of months after they went down, I end up going down, that we end up chopping it up or whatever. But I still was standing to blow, they were staying. So they, they were doing a little thing. They was in the basement cooking up, cooking up. I'm still down here cooking up. So I want to say like Right, when they got the song with young thug and Nica Minaj, I thought some more, I Made dog.
Speaker 2:I made dog around by that time and I was in the studio there when I was just like in, fucked up, you know. So I was on drink. I wasn't smoking in, but I was like drink pills Cuz I was on probation so I couldn't smoke, so I was just I was drinking peel like three day drill, just get out your system in three day.
Speaker 2:So I made dog and I sent to the JJ. I just put like a first verse on it and I've not put the chords on in the first verse verse on it and and I end up sending to JJ. But, like I said, I was so fucked up I didn't even remember I made the song. So he called me the next day. He was like well, you made a bangalore. And I'm like what? Like yeah, you made a bangalore and I'm like, send it to me. He signed it to me. I was like yeah, he was like he was like hold on, he raised it. Jimmy, finna, get on that John. So Jimmy got on it. So he sent it back with Jimmy on. He was like now I don't even listen to that. Shway put a verse on it right now. So I'm like I bet so boom, he ain't done. Sitting in that John back. See, that's it. It went crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, not like I'm the first time I heard it at the club. I might have been in a club heating it and they just played it. You know I did. When it come on. I'm back to. I'm like who I said could?
Speaker 2:it say that sound like real.
Speaker 1:They said that is real, but it jump.
Speaker 2:But I know for the whole, like he had to thumb on lock.
Speaker 2:Oh god, I don't think they stopped me. I got locked up. But see, the credit thing about it will see, I already knew I already had Charges when I made the song, like I was already in the street thugging. So I already knew like it's a possibility that I'm finna get locked up but I'm finna gonna sign me a deal, you know. So when I get out I'm gonna be like, be you know. I'm saying so that what I did I ended up I ain't until I'm like I'm finna get locked up. I told them today I had to turn myself in, probably on a win. I told them Tuesday like a bra, I love y'all, man, just keep my name alive. I gotta go turn myself in tomorrow. They like what.
Speaker 2:I know we can do like. You should have been taller. We could have got you the lawyer. Do the who I'm like In my head.
Speaker 2:I'm like, but you thought you were doing, right going, sign that deal. Yeah, I'm thinking like, go on, sign it deal. Go on get that behind you, cuz they was off of me a year, so I'm like man a year ago. Go by so fast and go on, get out. You've been making music so you ain't gonna be nothing to make. No move the dog and still gonna be hot. You know I'm saying which it was and which I did. My time I got out, everything still were moving, but when they went, the time that they was like rising, rising, was the time that I should have been on the scene.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was yeah, cuz they was like doing tours, they was like doing overseas tours and stuff like this. So I miss, yeah, I miss all it, like all the fans that I really could have gained. Yeah, I missed it. You know I'm saying so, but I did get out and did some shit with a little baby and shit.
Speaker 2:I was just gonna ask you, how did the little baby come about man, I'm gonna tell you I had a, I had a project I had put together but I had made this song trap. How, first it was me and my town on it. Oh, he had brought near my, to my crib and Near my had played it be, and I had made trap out when I was locked up. You know, I said that cuz I was bored. So I had wrote like the hook and I wrote like a couple of bars of verse, diverse. So when I heard the beat on the thing I could think, well, trap house, I'm like man, it's not like trap house. So I Recorded or whatever.
Speaker 2:So P had got on and then I Was just trying to be relevant. You know, I'm saying like trying like dang, what can I do to be relevant? I kind of missed my shot, but what can I do to bounce back? So I had hit Jimmy up. I'm like I was camping. I'm like, bro, I got this song with a baby. Bro, I'm finna, send it to you. And the men he like what little baby like for real. I'm like, yeah, he like, send it to me. But I was camping though you know I'm saying so.
Speaker 2:Now I see how I got him excited, because that's all I need is Jimmy support. I get Jimmy support, he gonna push it all the way to the limit. You know I'm saying so. I was like that's all I needed was his attention. So, boom, I knew a couple of people.
Speaker 2:So I, mark engineer, he from Atlanta side out the mark, and a DJ, cutthroat. He was Rollo, where he is Rollo DJ. And you know, at the time, rollo and Lil baby, they, they still cool, but they had the little Pakistan video they were going up together. So, uh, man, it was a guy, cuz I call mark, I'm like a bra, uh, I need a son with a baby man, what I need to do. And he was like man, I mean, he will cutthroat right now. He was like you probably don't know, cutthroat, but that's uh, that's Rollo DJ, you know him a little baby, them niggas cool.
Speaker 2:And I was like, yeah, so he get on the phone. He was like what's up? I like man, I need some little baby. He was like I'm finna see, cannot make it happen.
Speaker 2:He was like what you trying to spend, like shit, whatever it cost, right, cuz I ain't no, every time somebody ever asked me what was my budget? I Never. I used to be like shit, I ain't got no budget. What you want for. You know, I think I ain't want to feel like I'm low balling, you are, I'm just trying to talk you out of something.
Speaker 2:So I know I'd be like man, I got no budget, what what you want for it? Just be straight up, tell me what you want for either gonna do it, I ain't. So he was like uh, man, couple of thousand, I get you on some little bay on, like I bet off in the city right now. He was like for real. I said man, no cap from the city right now. So I end up sending it to him. So boom, when I send it to him, he hit me back. He was like I got the bread, I'm gonna go over and take the bridge to the baby. So I like I bet he was like, matter of fact, just stay on face, I come right around the corner from the baby hood.
Speaker 1:I like, I like that. Yeah, we're gonna just like that.
Speaker 2:So I'm like I I stay on the phone with him. Baby, get the phone. He like, yeah, maybe gonna lock in, come to Atlanta. So I like I bet, so I end up, it was finished, I, I end up.
Speaker 2:It was snowing in Tupelo, but when I used to go to Atlanta I used to drive, ride the bus, the Greyhound. You know, I think I ain't like driving, cuz every time I drive to Atlanta get pulled up by the police and all this. So I knew one thing I ride the bus, I'm gonna get there safe, I ain't got where. About no police stopping me when I get out of the bus? Hey, it's free land, I'm doing whatever I want to do. Once I've been in the city, I'm in the city. You know I'm saying so. It was snowing. So I like man, I ain't finna get on the bus, I ain't even to go. So the baby end up still doing the song. I didn't get in the studio with him, but he end up still doing the song and something to song back. So when he sent the song back, that's all I needed, yeah, so now I end up sending the song to Jimmy, but it took like a couple of days, I'm gonna say Jimmy didn't hit you back up.
Speaker 2:He hit me back up or none of that, cuz I know he was gonna get blunted and he was gonna forget. So couple of day I shot the jump to the tour. He was like boy, you just made a power move.
Speaker 2:How you do this, woo I like you see I always I always been a hustler. So Anything I do, anything I put my hands on, anything I put my mind to, I'm a hustler. Yeah, I ain't time. I like when I say hustle, ain't time I like getting out on nobody. But I treat everything like a hustle, like I'm gonna put my all in it, this what I'm gonna do, like for as Me, like I had a manager and I could have how, let my manager to do it, but me I don't like the way, don't nobody. If I, if I got my mind set, I'm a areas. If I got my mind set on something, I ain't wait. Like if I, if you tell me like brumfin a helmet and I call you back and you still ain't handle it, don't even worry about I got some don't, I'm off any, do it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll let you lay down about when I do it. You know I said so. I didn't want to push the play together. You know which play on the play. So shit, it just popped out like that. And then the baby he actually wanted to shoot the video. He was like, see, let's shoot the video. So I was like I bet, so gave him a couple of little thou out, shoot the video and see that how we ain't done making that happen cuz.
Speaker 2:I didn't hear the song first, I saw the video first. I thought a video, for that was like yes, he see, we drop. We didn't drop the song like for as just the song, we dropped the video and the song at the same time. Say yeah cuz I saw the video first.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really got a song. Yeah, I see that's okay, okay. I said but that little baby in the back. I said, man Cullen did it Like boy. You can tell me, hey, I was like boy. The Nauf is on, the Nauf See and to see about the music.
Speaker 2:Foby thinking like I ain't nigga fell out of the race, I'm not forward, I ain't nigga ooh, ooh, ooh. But people don't know I stopped doing music.
Speaker 3:You tired, you don't do, you don't rap, no more.
Speaker 2:I mean, I will for my pleasure. But far as me putting out music, I really don't care for it. You see what I'm saying. Like I said, I made music. What the music I made was kind of like X-rated type music. I got two little girls, so you know what I'm saying. I don't want them to see me. I'm their leader, I'm who they look up to, so I got to show them what type of nigga they need to be having. You see what I'm saying. So if I'm talking about dogging and this, what I'm doing, they gonna be like dang, you did mama like that? Ooh, they end up might explore to that adventure and find them a nigga like that. I don't want them to have no nigga like that.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying you just on the being side now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just on the being side. Then I realized I like being in the background more than I did, the stage Like me being the main, the scream, everything being the light being on me. I like being in the background.
Speaker 1:Right, same money, same money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ain't even got a cause. You know one thing if if just say Mary J Balaise, if she sang it right, she ain't gonna be hitting all them high notes by herself. She gonna have some background singles and that light gonna shine on them background singles Every night, then the curtain gonna open up. You gonna see them every night. You see what I'm saying. So I'm cool with the curtain open up every night and then see me. And then you ain't gotta see me like you gonna see emotion. You ain't gotta see me. You you'll see me, but you won't see me. I'm cool with that. And I heard somebody say you can get a lot more done if you ain't worried about who get the credit Right. Like you, they know you involved. Yeah, you ain't worried about the spotlight being on you sometimes.
Speaker 1:I don't even want it.
Speaker 2:So, timmy, is that relationship with you and Lil Baby still there? Yeah, that's my guy.
Speaker 1:That's what's up. That's what's up.
Speaker 2:Y'all, like everybody I ever had a relationship with, for a celebrity, wise, or far as just anybody, we still cool.
Speaker 1:No fall outs with nobody, because like you ain't never been, no fuck you gotta be genuine. Yeah, yeah, I can say that, like bro, you always been solid, like, like when nobody hit you up, needed to talk to you. Bro, you there, you know what I'm saying. So, like, and I know you like that with everybody. And that's where everybody and that's why emotion is so big now, because everybody know that just one solid day of dudes.
Speaker 3:That's why we talking about emotion.
Speaker 2:Let's show the ad right here.
Speaker 3:All right y'all, we back man. Clearly said podcast y'all.
Speaker 1:What's going?
Speaker 3:on. So my question to you is, like the motivation behind emotion. First off, what do it mean and how did you come up with the idea of emotion?
Speaker 2:I emotion mean like when you wake up in the morning, the first thing you do you finna get emotion right. Right, you finna brush your teeth. Watch your face If it makes it. You got everything. Your keys warm. You call up. All that is motion. It's just going around in a circle.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying, like a clock hand. What made me think about emotion was it was a day to day life everybody in motion. You see what I'm saying. So I started in motion in 2022. I was going to court. I had got some trouble again and I told God. I said God, on anything I love, I surrender, I give you everything. I said if you can let me get out of this situation right here, I promise you I ain't going to do nothing else. Nothing else, that's real. And I would tell him I'll partner out like I'm going to make me a closing line. He was like what you going to call your closing line? I was like in motion, yeah, I was like, if God bless me to get out of jail, I'm coming in motion. So when I, I ended up getting blessed too because I went to court.
Speaker 2:When I went to court, the judge the judge gave us like a recess, but when we came back in, it was like two o'clock, so I guess you can't send us nobody out there at a certain hour. So they told me to go to the county jail. They escorted me to the county jail for 30 days for a later trial. So now I'm in there, john, like a later trial. What's going on? Like man, they're fosing something in here. They ain't sending me out, I don't worry. For 30 days but every day I was praying and God had knew my heart, because I had started like my heart had started changing, like I had started mowing. God had started mowing me into the guy I am now. So I was going to church, you know what I'm saying I kind of like believing in God.
Speaker 2:More People ask me advice. I always put God in it. You know what I'm saying. So he blessed me out the situation. So when he blessed me out the situation, I was like I told God that I was going to do this and did what I did. I came with emotion. So I was looking like how can I get my clothes? How can I find somebody to do my clothes? Because I ain't want like, I want a real clothes.
Speaker 2:I want to tag in the back of my clothes. I want all my clothes to be in my. If it's emotion, I want it to say in emotion I ain't want no shirt. And then on the back it say something else. And when you look at the thing you know what I'm saying. So I ain't want this. So I was just doing my research on it and my cousin was like go on Alibaba. They got Ventus on Alibaba. You can find your Ventus on Alibaba. So I'm like Alibaba, what is that? He like it's Al. So I get on the Al, I'm looking.
Speaker 2:So I found me a guy on now you know what I'm saying, but I ain't know him from Adam and Eve. So it was really like I was taking a chance. He could have rocked, he could have finessed me. You know what I'm saying. So, like I said, I always thank B. So I'm and everything is a hustle to me. So I was like he was like how many pair of pants? I started with the stack legs. First. I ain't had no shirt, I just did the stack leg. So he was like how many pieces you want? I was like I want a hundred.
Speaker 2:I just came out of the gate B Like I want a hundred Because in my head like I can sell a hundred pair of pants. I ain't nothing like I know over a hundred people, that's easy. So I get the pants, they count, I sell them. I sold out fast so I'm like nothing like this year. I said I need to bring it back Because there was some old folks here. I sold a hundred but I still got some old people.
Speaker 1:They hit me up, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I bring it back again. So it started doing good. So I'm like, whatever I do, I don't be wanting to be no fit. If I be a failure, be me quitting them. They don't be no failure. Just I don't want to do it, no more. So I just said I'm just going to keep going with it. So I start now.
Speaker 2:I'm preaching to them, I'm filling my material and I'm filling other material and I'm like okay, this different, I need my material like this. So now I'm doing my research on the certain material. I need to get the certain quality, yeah, the certain quality I need to get in the certain time limit. They need to be done because they working for me. Really, you see what I'm saying? Because I'm sending money to y'all so y'all work for me. I don't work for y'all. You see what I'm saying? Like I always tell them the quicker you get me my brand, the quicker you give me my stuff, the quicker you can get paid again, because if quicker you get it to me, the quicker I can sell it and the quicker I can re-up Because they want it.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to get off of it. They want it, they want it.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to get off of it as fast as possible. I'm going to get off of it as fast as possible. I ain't finna hold it, so I just start working on my quality, getting my quality together. I'm always preaching to them when I wash them. I pay attention to certain things when I wash my clothes, so I'm like last couple of sets I had. When I first started. I was like I don't like this quality right here, because when you wash it it got little full balls on them.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying so it kind of looked cheap. I'm setting this like a high end, but now it's cheap. So I found another vendor. So now I got two vendors working. The other vendor, my further vendor, he still want to work, but I'm on him like, bro, your quality ain't good. Like, if you want to work for me, bro, you're going to have to put your, you're going to have to go get the high end quality.
Speaker 1:I ain't doing it.
Speaker 2:The off brand quality. So he's like I got you, bro, I got you. Then he folks from Pakistan. They ain't from the US, so they from Pakistan. You know what I'm saying. So it's going to take them a couple of like it take a package, probably a whole week, to get over here for Pakistan.
Speaker 2:So I got him working and I got another guy working, so I might put an order in with this guy, a whole different kind of set, and on this, on this guy right here, I might got some some shorts and some shirts, I might have some hoodies and some some joggers with him. You know what I'm saying. So it's somebody. So you, you can be basically like the plug now, because you can get the people, because you going straight from Pakistan, you going straight from the source.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody else. We got to go to the store, get it, then take it over here to the place and then they put the stuff on it and what I noticed you really analyzing like the whole material and your vendors, like a lot of you treated like a real deal business.
Speaker 2:It's a business Cause. This is how I ain't gonna lie this, how I feel in my family, like this is how I'm buying, getting to buy what I want to buy. So this is my business. You know what I'm saying. So I'm if I'm standing behind in my name on it, come out. Face card is everything to me. I don't care about nothing up, I love my face card. Like I don't be one, even if I feel like a person, like if a person, if I do something to a person and they feel like I got out on them, i'ma try to make it right, even though I know like man.
Speaker 2:I ain't even I ain't, even, I don't, even. Oh you nothing. You know what I'm saying, but I still be like huh, get that. Don't even fool with me. I'm on type. You know what I'm saying. Cause my face card. I don't want you to go. That's the only thing I'd be worried about. People say about me as my face card. You know what I'm saying. So, like he said, yeah, I can be charging people for vendors and stuff like that, but I ain't. I'm making money anyway, so I ain't. Why would charge you? So there's so many people that be hitting me up like bro, how can I get my clothes and line started? Like I ain't never like something? No piece of paper like, okay, this what I'm charging to give you this game.
Speaker 2:And this what I could but I ain't no need to do that. You know what I'm saying Cause I'ma get blessed and I'm already getting money. So that's for a person. A person that's charging you for stuff like that is a person that ain't having no motion. He ain't having no motion. That's why he want to charge you for it. I'm having, I'm having interstices everywhere, like I just I got emotion, I got a corporate business, I got a plumbing business, like I'm everywhere. So you do both of those. I do car and business.
Speaker 1:And that's what I was going to say that later on in the show. But you brought it up, I didn't even know you did plumbing stuff. So one day they were like uh, I was telling somebody uh, yeah, man, we got Rift coming on the show, man, it was gonna be good. He messed it up and that gracious lady and he was like, yeah, it's theazione queen, see, everybody's plumbing being this, I'm like plumbing. I said he don't do nothing Like cause, I'm like I ain't no, I'm like he don't do no plumbing. He said, bro, he do plumbing and you can charge whatever you want to charge, right.
Speaker 2:Right, you gotta understand plumbing. Who want to touch some shit? What nigga ain't that day of tying on? Touch some shit, right, and you can charge whatever you want to charge. So more, have a busted pipe in the middle of the night. Two in the morning, rob come in. That's over, that's over. I could charge two $300 an hour, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna pay it Like they come on your real big. You don't want no shit coming up in your toilet.
Speaker 2:You don't want no shit coming in your bathtub and then your house.
Speaker 1:man like they gonna pay.
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 2:And then niggas eating booty for free Shit. I'm touching shit.
Speaker 1:Hey, you got to make that a little clip.
Speaker 3:That's funny, no shit.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Why not? I'll get some money out of this shit. Here you go. Shit, I like the nastiest job, cause that's the more money that's gonna pay. That that's true, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I don't know why I didn't want to do it, and ain't nobody working right now. So, shit, I'm working my moves and I'm gonna tell you, though, like I was thinking myself to learn some type of trade like electrician or HVAC or something like that, cause people don't really work with their hands, no more. And you could, like I know a guy that he certified HVAC. He don't even do the job like that. You know what I'm saying, cause he just be like oh, it's so much, I got to go here, go get this, go get that. But when he was telling me where he was charging, I'm like, bro, you not doing it. Bro, you gotta look at it. It's like a couple of jobs, it's a couple of trade.
Speaker 2:You can get dropped off on the moon and they gonna need it. Like plumbing, air electrician, mechanic. Bro, you can get dropped off on the moon, somebody gonna need on the moon gonna need a car fixed. Somebody on the moon gonna be hot. They air ain't working. Somebody on the moon toilet gonna be stopped up and somebody on the moon flow gonna be messed up, but house need to be read something. So them hustlers and electrician, they gonna need some likes. So what's the name of your two companies that you do. I got Ultimate Plumbing and then I got Ultimate Rebuild Pair. Okay, so I heard that you know he-.
Speaker 3:How long have you?
Speaker 1:been doing all of that.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm gonna be honest with you, I, my cousin I don't wanna criminalize nobody, but my cousin, he used to plon and I used to holler at him about a certain little thing. When I used to come holler at him he was plumbing. So in the midst of him plumbing I used to chop it up with him while he plumbing and he might be like Uh, grab me the, the, uh, what's the name? Grab me that, grab me that. So I ended up I'm ending up helping him.
Speaker 2:So I'm like man, this ain't no. I'm like how much you making out there. Like I said, I've been in the street a long time, so I'm everything a hustle. I'm like how much you been making out there. He like shit, it's all right here, like 5,000. I'm like what, what you do? He like I ain't did nothing, I'm just connect this pipe and this pipe.
Speaker 2:We're like man. So that was like eight, nine years ago. So my cousin kind of fell short a little bit. You know what I'm saying. So I was trying to bring him back to life, give him CPR, you know what I'm saying. So I said you know what I'm, finna, start a plumbing business at Cull. I've been telling him like brother, streets ain't full and I'm all we, we grown Like boy. I can't stand to do a 10 piece right now. You can't stand, you all to me, you can't stand to do a 10 P. Let's just get us a uh business started. The plumbing business ain't nobody plumbing. We gon just have faith in me. I'm a hustle deployment Like bro. I get you know them little postcard like on, like before Christmas you see a random family, sending them to live in those cars your house.
Speaker 2:You never. You ain't never met them, but they sent the car to the house on my merry criminal man, that's me I got. I print up about three, four hundred them junk. Go ride down the road, get everybody at address, write it down, go to the phone software, give me some stamp. I just melt them all Out of 300 people. Somebody gon call?
Speaker 1:Damn bro, A hundred of them gon call I was finna, say somebody gon call Bro.
Speaker 2:Everything I done did is be organic, Like I'd be hustling it. You see what I'm saying. So it ain't like people finding me Nah, I'm finding them.
Speaker 3:Ain't a lot. I wouldn't expect that. None of this, bro, I'm telling you, bro, that's crazy and you gotta understand this.
Speaker 2:the world is big. When COVID hit, covid said everybody down for a reason. It said everybody down and let everybody know like man, you been working a job 30 years you could be. You sit down and think like man, you could be running a business. Right, it ain't nothing but putting people in position and going out and broadcasting what you doing to bring no more work. Who ain't gon wanna work with somebody that can get them work, like me? Like he said, hip hop and I don't touch nothing. I don't touch nothing. I got six Mexicans that work for me.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:they don't speak English. I love them to death. I don't cheat on them or nothing. I paid them way more than a factory. I paid them, but get what they already said. You go out. You know how to talk to people. More people know you. They starting to understand who I am.
Speaker 2:You see what I'm saying Because they were trying to figure out who I was like, why everybody know you. Like everywhere we go, people holler at you like what? So I had a show on my video, like I once was kind of like famous. You know what I'm saying. So everybody know me. But that's a blessing, though, riff. Everybody you say everybody can start a business. Everybody can't do with you. Everybody can you guys. No, riff, I'm just saying, like you got to know that you got. Everybody can't come out of prison, do what you did speak a feature into existence, shoot the video, reinvent yourself, put the music down, start businesses. Never touch a pipe. Making this day and the third on every job. That's something in you that everybody ain't got.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? You're right, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2:Y'all See, and that just caught from me being young and hustling like it. Just, I ain't never content with whatever I got. I got a lot, but I never content. Like I always want more. I always want way more. You know what I'm saying. Like I know it's way more to get.
Speaker 2:And then I had, I'm gonna tell you, pride of motherfucking. I had broke my pride down and started working at a factory. But see, working at a factory would made me want to be like you know what. I don't want to work for no man, I can't me working for people ain't me Right, right, right. Because now don't get me wrong I had my homer day. I worked for about three years at a job. I done had my homer day where this man handed me rough. And I'm like I'm the nigga that handed folks rough. Right, you know what I'm saying. But I push it all. You know what I'm saying Keep moving, just kept my job. But I say, probably about two weeks ago, on a frat on a Thursday, I was already doing my little plumbing stuff on the side. But oh, that Thursday man, I had kind of worked. My dude had wrote me up. So when he wrote me up, I'm like you know what I'm gone?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't need this right, I got way too much hustling me. You know I said so. I love brother. Day I left the Mexican he was on the line with me. There was plumbing with me the day, I live brother. That Monday he came with me. I swear to God, brother, that Monday I got a call from a guy that he, uh he, was supervising. Asked the front. He called me and said he needed to flow done. So I'm like, oh, a little flow job, it ain't nothing, I'm finna go.
Speaker 2:It ain't no job. If you on the phone with me asking me about a job, I'm gonna say yeah, I don't even probably know if I got somebody to know how to do it, you gonna find. Yeah, I'm finna. Find somebody. You know how I do this. Yeah, I'm on the way. Give me your address I'm coming at. I might not even know how to do it.
Speaker 1:All the people with me Do I know how to do it, but we gonna get it done so when I get them like a little flow job, it ain't none my.
Speaker 2:I swear to God, when I got done, the man hold Every flow in his house was so bad to what I'm talking about. You can just pick the wood up in your hand and just so, I'm like, well, it's a job right here. So my Mexican, he looked at me, smile, he said this, what I this, what I did in Dallas, this is what I like to do right here. Yeah, he was like, I like plumbing, but this more me floor, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2:So the dude asked me how much? How much would you? Uh, tried me for the type of job. So I'm like couple of rec, you know man. So he like I. So basically what I'm saying here I quit my job Thursday. Monday I get country, I get him a contract, yeah, for way more than I would have made probably in three months at my job.
Speaker 3:One day, and one day is a blessing For real.
Speaker 2:So then when I kind of senses like this is for me, yeah, this is what I supposed to be doing, yeah, like music was cool and I am forever gonna be grateful for the little chick, because I always still gonna get a chick.
Speaker 3:Off the moon, yeah.
Speaker 2:I get a chick every two months.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they ever wow you know I'm saying but yeah.
Speaker 2:But I'm like this way, is it? They're having a run up. I'm for the really run up a sec. I'll this right here. I'm glad you said it. I don't know if I send a quote, sent a question to you or not, cuz you've been in there and I ain't really talked to anybody that's on the scene, that's been hand-to-hand with these famous like people like tell us something that we think is Real or true about the music industry. Like that's a rumor, but you didn't been in there with these people and it's not like that. Like when people be saying Luma night, it like Luma night, I ain't real. I'll be saying it to. I'll be saying it's not real. It's not real, yeah, when people be saying they sacrifice on me and they got a family kid. Now, don't get me wrong, stuff happens all the time, so we're gonna make you be like he luminati, cuz this right here just happens. See, how did you happen? He just blew all the way up. No, bro, luma night. It is not real like when people say they sacrifice. They sacrifice a time.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they sacrifice, like I. Often. If they got a family at home, they like I ain't finna see my family for about two years cuz I'm on the grind. That's sacrificing, you know. I'm saying that's the major sacrifice and I'd seen people do though kind of sacrifice. And then I be hearing people like man he luminati, like how.
Speaker 1:Yeah, put in their work.
Speaker 2:They put in work, but he lost his family on the way bro for real. Yeah, I didn't see any people really actually lose they family but they on being peace, like they probably got what they wanted for as money and the fine.
Speaker 1:But they are. I lost my family on the way doing and.
Speaker 2:I said that and that would make a lot of people like I don't even really want to rap cuz. When you see rappers saying they don't want to rap, they didn't lost some, they really just Can't get back. So that why I was like I'm for the quick rapping, cuz I'm all lost, my family doing it, cuz I look at it, there were female rapping and you and you at home with the kid, how you gonna feel for two years, for two years I see baby, wait, no, no more Seeing mother in the club and it ain't, it ain't what you see. But they gonna put it like this. So you seeing females in the club, you seeing mother in the club dancing on your girl like Dancing on your nigga it don't mean that nigga like cuz, just yeah, yeah, just yeah, just for the camera, just sometimes the camera might catch a nigga in the act of doing something, but it ain't real and even
Speaker 2:like, yeah, I mean like that, like how it is on camera. So that really one reason why I that's one major reason why I like I ain't even a do the music like that. You know I'm saying God, it's an embarrassment. And then the people that I love, I lose them for some money. That's grown up too, man, because a lot of people won't walk away from Fame and money for they family. Bro, you did that for your wife and kids, but that's that's grown up.
Speaker 1:That's people, man. They, they just keep trying and trying and trying and then you can see it in them Like but this shit taking a life out, you need them. Like. Then they want to walk away. They walk away too late, not too late, but it's right.
Speaker 2:No niggas, be trying like it's cool if you young and you doing it and you young, you ain't got no family. That's when you need to be doing it. But if you got a family, you still trying to rap. Like be real, cuz you ain't finna put the money. Do you know how much money I spent on rap? 10s of thousands, man. I know how to spend some hundreds, damn. But you funded all your own stuff. Yeah, I find out my own stuff, but I get it back right on the road to side. But In the, in the, in the beginning, man, I wasn't getting nothing. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, like, bro, before right, swimming, blow it up, bro, I was paying 250 that when I had the mix tapes you remember, like DJ, drama, holiday and all them. Yeah, I used to have mixed tapes and stuff. I used to play like 250 to get my song on a mixtape Did, who knows if it's gonna get heard or not. Yeah, it's just a gamma that I take you know I'm saying with my career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my, I was. Every day I was sending 250 here, 250 there, I think I I think I finesse a couple of times person might call me, but, like bro, I'm trying to sign you that one I didn't know no better. Like brahms, trying to sign you, send me 1500. We finna see you supplying tickets and net and net. Then send 1500. Then, boom, dude, I need answering the phone. I'm on. Yeah, like I'd have been through all that type of stuff, right though you know I'm saying so Like I. Like I say, if anybody want to get in the music, you got to be willing to invest in yourself, because I ain't nobody, friend, investing. You've been investing yourself. If you're inconsistent, if you don't even want to spend $200 for your own video, what make you think? If I'm a millionaire and I'm looking to sign on artists, but you don't even want to spend 250 For your own video, what make you think I'm?
Speaker 1:finna spend 250 for you.
Speaker 2:You don't even believe in yourself, right? Cuz you believe in yourself, you a drop. That too, man. Ain't nothing here y'all talking about trapping and hustling in your rap shit.
Speaker 3:Let's see what am I now right?
Speaker 2:what am I now? Let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they Kevin, that's definitely.
Speaker 3:A lot of people, everybody rich these days, man and see everybody got it, and that's a lot of got man.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of shit that triggered me to not want to rap no more, because when everybody start being important, I'm like man, what a regular people. I don't know regular people. I, I'm finna. Start a trend for regular people, right thanks, but that don't mean you ain't living no good life, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you gotta do. I ain't gotta do. All the social media make people think they gotta have Everything, when you don't bro, I don't even post like right now.
Speaker 2:if I want some attention, I post on Instagram. I know I can get by two, three thousand likes, yeah. I ain't posting to since 22. Why I don't like, cuz I ain't even into it. Yeah, now don't get me wrong, I post on my clothes or that, how I'm finna, you know. But far as I'm a personal, real three-time pay, I ain't posting a judge since 22 let me ask you a question Now.
Speaker 3:It was a recent viral picture Around this area that a dude pretty much said race drummer never helped nobody or never did enough for the city. Oh, did you see it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I seen it. How you feel about it?
Speaker 1:Because my take on the year.
Speaker 2:I didn't comment on it cuz I already you know saying I'm in a circle. So once you in the circle and you know what, a person like that's what he wanted somebody to feed into it. You know, I said it take to the organ and tiger. I ain't finna.
Speaker 2:I would know he's paid I ain't never seen buddy and see people telling me, I mean, I didn't heard of him, I didn't seen him, but I like actually know him, know him, I don't know him. He didn't disrespect me, but then they'll me as a little bro. So if you talking about them, you talking about me, but he can't say they ain't no, put nobody on. Like how can you put somebody on? I can't make the world listen to your music. That's true what you what you mean by put yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, like I can't say, okay, this my artist. Y'all go listen to him music. And then boom, he blow up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it ain't gonna work like that. Like he got that, he got to be bringing something to the table, right, so did this dude try to get with them and then they just didn't do what he expected, or I Think he was just more trolling. I get he and see the post one in for him. I think he J-Strem cousin and he was just trying to troll J-Strem, oh he was just trying to get J-Strem to react.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but people don't know. You can't get J-Strem react. Yeah, yeah there's no negative do yeah like negativity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that one. I seen somebody had added me in a matter of fact, and I'm just like I don't even entertain it. So right, right before we read I know we got a rap chat I'm gonna ask you some more stuff. Last question on that right there Do you think that they owe the city something because they from here, or it just is what it is, you from, where you from, and you don't owe nobody nothing? If you make it out they owe nobody, cuz you got a look at it when, when they was on the ground, who? Who gave them some? I'm pretty sure when, before, when they drop, when they were dropping music back then did nobody listen to them really not like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you know I ain't gonna say Nobody far as the whole time. Right, you did have some people that support them. But yeah, when they drop videos, if they got 5,000 plays on a video, that one no support, right? You see, I'm saying it's more than 5,000 people in Tupelo, so y'all saying they owe y'all some why y'all people didn't go and repost their videos and like and share and subscribe to their Pages and let everybody know, like this is my, this is my hometown, they my home Hometown star. This was going on like right to this day. I don't see nobody posting a music man, it's real yeah and they didn't gave your mama's and grandma's turkeys right.
Speaker 2:You didn't understand so I ain't seen nobody post that news.
Speaker 1:And about concerts to the Something I'm on my own man.
Speaker 2:I don't seem people they don't need supposed to be backstage, backstage at the concert. Yeah and I ain't trying to word like a, he don't supposed to be here, get him out of, like they kicked it with him, like yeah, y'all with us every day. You know, I'm saying so for them to say that they owe. They don't owe nobody, nothing, right? You see, I'm saying now, if they give you some, take it as a present yeah if they don't, you will grow a man about say every man's a hunt for it.
Speaker 2:On, so don't hunt, yeah, the same way they. You should be thankful that they made Mississippi a target. Even look you right. You see I'm saying, they could have said I'm from California, yeah, yeah, they ain't from Mississippi, right? So they could have said I know I ain't. They ain't even had to even bring up Mississippi. Yeah, you see, on land, so need to be thankful that. You know I'm saying, and they put, they put me in a spotlight, it's just with me. They didn't want to go farther right.
Speaker 2:And they put a couple more in the spotlight. It was just on them that didn't want to go farther and they got people from the area that be with them, you're doing it now to this day and majority of Tupelo to Ben today. Creel, yeah. So how they not put nobody on? I can't make nobody Fuck with you, right, true?
Speaker 1:Thanks, but yeah, man, I feel, before we wrap it up, man, I just want you looking to that camera, in any camera, and, like man, if the world was your audience right now and everybody just listening to riff, what is something that you want to tell the people?
Speaker 2:Man, have faith. All you need is this much your fingers can touch each other. That's how much faith you need. Have that much faith in yourself and I promise you pray about it, it's gonna come. That's all you got do. Just if you want some Grind for don't ask nobody for none, because the same people you asked for some gonna be the same one that tell you in the end oh, you owe me for that. Don't never let nobody hold no, you owe me over your head. Go get it yourself. That's all you got to do is just grind and hustle everybody around here. Know that, brother, shit I was doing. I did it from my couch. Like don't fuck with begging me, like real, you need to be in Miami right now, like we on doing this right here, and I'm like Brian, I'm going over, I'm just chilling right like the baby, the little baby play.
Speaker 2:I made it from the couch, mm-hmm. It wasn't about a phone call and me having faith, right. So if I could have faith, everybody else can have faith. Believe in yourself If you want to rap, believe in yourself. You want to. Whatever you want to do, believe in yourself and have faith and I promise you it's gonna come true. To keep grinding Like the Sims appreciate you guys, yeah.
Speaker 3:Turn me off for the one time.
