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"IS THE NFL SCRIPTED?"
Super Bowl predictions are split between the Chiefs and 49ers. Who do you pick? Feel the heat as we engage in a no-holds-barred discussion about the NFL's potential for rigging games. Are we fans of a pre-written script or does the competition remain untainted by corruption? We share personal thoughts and dissect social media buzz that hint at behind-the-scenes manipulation, making you ponder the true nature of professional football. Our debate unravels the threads of competitiveness, financial incentives, legacy, and the governance that holds the league's reputation in the balance.
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I just stomped on his damn arm.
Speaker 2:I stomped on his arm.
Speaker 1:I ran straight to him, just stomped on his arm and jumped on that joint and you know, hey, here's what it is 28 talks. So you got me. But yeah, like little, you know me and you know I got your ass back. Eric, I'm gonna be watching.
Speaker 3:Wherever you are in the world, please watch this and that of us and come on here and tell your real story.
Speaker 4:Yeah, eric, reach out to us, dm us, and you can come on, even if we just do it short, and we're gonna give you the whole story, not just bones. I ain't gonna lie. Let me clear my throat, so everything I say here can be clearly said. All right, y'all, we back with another episode, we coming and we bringing everything we got. So this is me, I'm Josh, this is Bone man, this is boy Chas. All right, this is clearly said podcast. We got Floyd running the cameras, we got Rasta on the ones and twos, and we about to hit the ground rolling. All right, so look, super Bowl tomorrow, chas, who is your pick and how do you think the game is gonna unfold?
Speaker 3:In a perfect world I'd be saying Baltimore Ravens, but since I got to choose somebody that I'm going to go with the Chiefs.
Speaker 4:So you think it's a close game.
Speaker 3:You think yeah, yeah, it's definitely gonna be a. I don't know if the 49ers come out playing like they did against the Lions that first half, yeah, it's gonna be over with, but they just come out and play like they posed to play. It'll be a close game, but I'm gonna still give it to Pat in my home. All right, yeah, can't pick against Pat.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel I'm gonna go against you, bro. I feel like the 49ers is gonna actually do it this time. I mean the Chiefs been there? What? Three times in a row? Four times in a row.
Speaker 4:They been there like six times right.
Speaker 3:Now, this is gonna be the fourth one.
Speaker 2:They won six ASP championships. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:They went to six ASP championships. They won four. Okay, yeah, yeah, because the Bangles beat them one time and then Tom Right, right, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So I just feel like the 49ers gonna pull it out this time. I don't know why, but this Taylor shit, all of that. I feel like the 49ers is gonna overcome all of that. You know what I'm saying. I got you Actually beat the.
Speaker 4:Chiefs.
Speaker 1:That's how I feel.
Speaker 4:I got you. I have to say I know that he's got a good relationship with the mighty Chiefs. The Chiefs is good, so I can't break it down. He's just one of the best players that I've ever played against. I was thinking, really and truly, you know, I wanted to see Lamar do it, because everybody's like he can't do it, he can't do this, he can't do that, whatever, whatever, whatever and Floyd and Rasta know, because I go back and forth with them all the time about the Ravens and about Lamar but there's no doubting that he's one of the more talented people that we've ever seen at the position. But I'm picking the Chiefs. I picked the Chiefs in the AFC Championship. Obviously I was right. I'm just not going to pick against Patrick Mahomes. So I don't know, rasta, what you thinking.
Speaker 1:Bang bang nine or game.
Speaker 3:Nine or game.
Speaker 4:Bang bang nine or game.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, but he might be worried because they got a five running game and the Chiefs can't stop them.
Speaker 1:They cannot stop their run.
Speaker 3:And that's what the Ravens failed to do was run the ball.
Speaker 4:And that Christian McCaffrey, and they got Debo, A bad man Debo OK, I know he. For some reason did he not play like the first half or something. What happened with that?
Speaker 1:Oh Christian.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, Debo, not, debo, not. Well, he left the game for a period of time, did he not?
Speaker 1:He was coming off the injured, I think.
Speaker 4:He was coming off from the divisional game. That's what it was. Ok, because I know they gave some kind of crazy stat, like when Debo was not in the game. They do not win.
Speaker 4:They don't win. So that's crazy. Ok, so tell me about this right here, because it's a lot going on with people saying that they think the Super Bowl not just the Super Bowl, but pro sports period is rigged. And so, is this the Super Bowl that everyone wants to see? And or is the Super Bowl rigged? Are pro sports rigged? And I'll go first because obviously I'm probably going to have a different perspective. I don't think it's rigged, because I think the game is too big to rig. It's too many people, it's too much structure for everybody to be on the same page, for there to be a script. Now, do I think it can be one referee that's paid off? Yeah, do I think one player can be paid off? Yeah, do I think a coach can be paid off? But I don't think the NFL has a script of how the playoffs is supposed to go. That's just me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't. Like I don't go with the script thing either. Like, I'm with you, you can pay some of them folks off in there. Make sure your team win or a certain team win, name it BraziFelai. I just don't want to get on there and see Taylor Swift. Every time that Travis make a catch, they show her that was getting on my nerves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's why I feel like it's scripted, though I mean, from the beginning of time you think it's scripted or do you think I feel like people got their money into it for a bigger or another decision? That's how I just feel. I mean you got referees getting paid under the table or betting under the table, different things like that. So I don't believe none of this shit. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3:I believe it's. I believe it'll be harder to script NBA than it will to interfere.
Speaker 1:I believed it up until this year.
Speaker 3:You believed what?
Speaker 1:I didn't believe it was scripted until this year.
Speaker 4:You think it's scripted. You think it's scripted.
Speaker 1:It's classified as sports entertainment, just like the WWE, which we know is scripted. No other sport is classified under that.
Speaker 4:So the NBA is not classified as sports entertainment? I don't think so. The reason I say that is because you have these guys that are such big competitors and you're telling me that for an amount of money and I understand money is what makes the world go around but you got digs. That's been there. This is year four in the playoffs that they get a disappointment. Your legacy is riding on this. You're going to get paid. Money is not an issue to these guys and he drops those passes on purpose. You telling me that goes through all this turmoil three off seasons in a row when he was expected to win. I don't think there's enough money for it because you're still a human being.
Speaker 1:But in certain cases I feel like some players know that they're spot solidified, so why not take off a plate and get an extra 100,000 or whatever the case may be under the table? They're getting paid under the table, bro.
Speaker 4:I can see in a pretty good way.
Speaker 1:Some players came out and said that it was really too right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You had a few former players that were saying that it was scripted.
Speaker 4:Are they disgruntled players? And when they say scripted, what do they mean by? Did they say such and such came in the locker room and told us let them have the game?
Speaker 1:Jay Ramsey put out a tweet that did say that Jaylin Ramsey did that he needed it, though he needed real things. And Jack Wise was in the ASC championship, maybe 2014.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I don't know if it was 14. Anyway, go ahead. It was somewhere around there. Yeah, and years ago.
Speaker 1:Go here, go here. He put out a tweet that said the commissioner came into the locker room and told them to give the game to New England.
Speaker 4:I don't believe that. That's just me, though. It's just hard to believe that. Those guys because if he had said that for real, for real, the whole locker room would have been chomping at the bit to come out against Roger Gordell because people don't like Roger.
Speaker 3:Gordell.
Speaker 4:Especially a lot of the players. They don't like Roger and so, oh yeah, Roger did this, Roger did that. I heard it with my own ears. It would have been all over the place that Roger Gordell came in the locker room during a game and said give it to the Pats. And last thing, because I don't want to talk too much, Roger Gordell works for the owners and so they pay him. I think is $40 million a year. The owners come together and they figure out who they want to hire.
Speaker 4:I don't care what my franchise is. There is no way that I'm going to let another franchise have a more competitive advantage than me if we're scripting it. You see what I'm saying? Because if it's scripted, every team should get a chance to win it every year, Because these 32 owners, at the end of the day, they work together Because my team ain't hitting on nothing. You know what I'm saying. If the whole league is not hitting, so I don't know. But I try not to be a conspiracy theorist. I listen to whatever, but when people be like, oh, it's scripted, I just don't. Okay, he got the tweet right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I won't win.
Speaker 4:That's from when, January 22nd 2016.
Speaker 1:2016. So it was a division around the playoffs, I think.
Speaker 4:And he said let the pat yeah, I just bless you. He said let the pat Bless you, my brother.
Speaker 3:But you know what I'm saying. If y'all think the NFL is scripted like that, may y'all let us know in the comments.
Speaker 4:Definitely, let us know in the comments May y'all give us y'all opinion on it.
Speaker 3:I got to sit down and feel like there is. I feel like some stuff is bought out, like we're gonna get out of this if we let them win, but it's far scripted. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm like you can't script four quarters.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you can script. You know like you got your place.
Speaker 3:You gonna call, but you can't, yeah, you can't script four quarters.
Speaker 4:That's that's why I use that word specifically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, that's why you that you can't script Um off-sides. You can't script holding, that that you want to call but you don't call like different things.
Speaker 4:Like that, you can't script that but you can, but yeah, but I do believe you can pay off a player, you can pay off a coach, you can play off an official. Yeah, cuz.
Speaker 3:I believe, I can drop a pass okay let me finish with those uh the one that was uh, officiating that? Uh, raven, the cheating game? Yeah, they were. They probably got paid, cuz. I Glad you brought that up. It was like three players in the road we were passing the friends and they just looked like they looked other way.
Speaker 4:So I think some of it and I don't want to last exception the ruffles.
Speaker 3:Philathoid, he, he put it. He was in the back of the.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was but I think the same thing happened. So Nick Wright said that when people play the chiefs, they, they get scared, they get crazy and they abandon.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah they abandoned their game playing. They abandoned their identity as ball players. I think the same things happen with coaches, because we look at how Detroit choked, and I think the same thing happens with refs and officials. It's the afc or nfc championship game and you know, like your coach would tell you don't go out there and try not to get hurt, because that's when you get hurt. They go out there and try not to make a bad call. That's when you make a bad call because you're overthinking it and you're like, dang, do I need to throw it? And you don't throw it. Um, but but I do think the ravens abandoned a game playing. I don't know what y'all think about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think yeah, because I'm like Like, why we ain't, why aren't you running it? Like the thing that got you out, the thing that y'all had known for the most, y'all are not doing so and I and and bro like when I was watching game, bro, you could tell the tomorrow was second guessing, trying to take off from the run I'm like, bro, just go with your first mind, do what you've been doing all season, just take off.
Speaker 3:I can't know what got in here bro, in the open field Can't nobody stop you, bro. One move just.
Speaker 1:I was nothing. That that brings me to the tailored situation. Do y'all think she played a big part in descriptive moments?
Speaker 4:I, I think. I think what tailor does is about money and everybody got to pay the bills, and what we about to do, we won't pay the bills right here. I want you to watch this ad. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 4:We got you, oh yeah, okay, we're back. We had to pay the bills and apparently the NFL is paying the bills. Well, not apparently, in my opinion. The NFL is paying the bills with Taylor Swift, and so, um, first of all, do you think that the attention that Is own Taylor Swift is taken away from a historic chapter in a great run that the Kansas City Chiefs are having?
Speaker 3:Yes, definitely because I just feel like but it's too bold. We finna see her in 50 commercial. 50 commercials bro Then they talk about her and ushapena. They be with song, they have time like bro. It's not. It's not about nobody wants to see her, which I ain't hating on her like she's a mega star, like right right, one of the biggest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is football, though. This ain't Pop scene like we don't want to see you take. We want to watch the game and be able to watch the game. Not every time the cheese get a fur down or anything. They go straight to you. You up there just smile doing a little swag surfing you would do I'm. I want to see that, yeah whitewater yeah.
Speaker 4:That's funny, I hadn't heard that. But the but the thing is, is they that, in my opinion, the NFL continues to ignore their and I put this on a Facebook post they continue to ignore their longtime Most loyal customer, which is men, and I understand it. What they want to do is to bring female eyes To the game, which they did well, which is great, because I think football is the best sport on earth and I think American football, and I think if you have more people that are actual fans of the sport, the better. But when people are drawn to a side show and not the show, that's not helping the game. But the NFL is not worried about that. They're worried about ratings.
Speaker 3:They're like now, when you get like I'm on line of the day Trying to order some clothes, they already got t-shirts out. Go tell us, boyfriend like they ain't even, they're not even caring that it's.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they troll, just the fact he go with him now, he, now he just tell his boyfriend Right, right, right and they and they trolling some, you know, I feel you know they gotta get their money back that they miss out.
Speaker 1:The Black lives matter movement.
Speaker 4:I Don't, I don't think that's it. I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 1:They did miss some money. They a lot of people stop watching. A lot of people stop watching. You are they? They miss some money. They miss some money for years.
Speaker 4:So which? So what would you say in that? Excuse me, I got another note here and I gotta make sure I have no, so I don't forget this stuff. You know, I say is the NFL too big to fail? Because the ratings did drop a little bit when Kaepernick kneeled, but we didn't stop watching football. That was a year, and I'm saying I didn't have no plans in stopping watching football, I was gonna keep watching it. You know, some people like that's why I start watching.
Speaker 4:So you don't watch football anymore. So you don't watch NFL anymore.
Speaker 1:Don't watch NFL, love college football. Feel like college is the best you say.
Speaker 3:NFL. But I feel like why I said football.
Speaker 4:I said football.
Speaker 3:College gonna fit in them and they're being the same level as NFL and that's a like. Players ain't gonna be trying as hard to get to league because they can pay to college now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't think they'll be in a hurry. Yeah, yeah, because at some point you gotta go.
Speaker 3:You ain't got pretty folks stand for five or six years now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, I do the sixth year because Kobe year is gone. I think this year is the last year that people would have a COVID Eligibility year. Maybe one more year, I'm saying like after that, the most you got is five your four years and then your grads year.
Speaker 3:I was watching yeah, I was watching one game. They say dude, this is six year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, some maybe in 28 years old like that.
Speaker 3:They do 27 right there, knocking out 18. Oh no, I don't need to hey get that bag.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't blame me, especially running backs in a and I need to finish my point but, like you, look at Isaiah Pacheco, I think he was a six or seven round pick. He'll never get a big deal because next year, you know, even even if they win the big game tomorrow, next year, after his rookie deal is up and he's made like six hundred dollars per game, they're gonna say he used up. So if you in college football and you're a quench on junkings or somebody like that and you can stay another year, make that bread, I would stay and make that bread and then, if you still got it, go to the league and make it, because it's not guaranteed. Like, the name of the game is to be able to support yourself and support your family, right and my. Obviously you play the win, but you but you get. You see what I'm getting at. And so I don't know, man, the game is changing. Yeah, game is changing a lot.
Speaker 1:Is that a good thing or a bad thing? That's my question to you, man. It's a.
Speaker 3:It's both. It's a good thing because you know they ain't looking out for safety. You know I'm saying cuz like you know, back then too, really get knocked out and you, they were taking headlicks back to back and a lot of them is messed up in the head now. So now they taking it for cause you know like, hey, bro, don't hit nobody to help them, bro, if you don't. You know what I'm saying. So, and we do better when we know better. Yeah, you know like and then, but I just I do miss that hard hitting like tough football that I was. You know like that same Ray Lewis era of football, like yeah.
Speaker 4:Ball to the wall, just go you know Well, the last, the last, in my opinion, great defense that we saw and we acknowledged it as great defense was the Legion of Boom. Yes, Lord, the Legion of Boom, and that was right in there in that rule change era. You know what I'm saying. 13, 14, 15, they really conscious about head injuries, which is a big thing. If I had a son, I don't think I would let my son play tackle football until middle school, because you just want to let their brains develop and if you got it, you got it. You don't jump, but anyway you won't see great defenses anymore because guys can't put a focus on it. Brian Dawkins Brian Dawkins used to try to kill people. Erlach or Ray Lewis here's my girl.
Speaker 4:The next the next yes.
Speaker 3:There's you was running back. You was running back.
Speaker 1:I was going to hit you before you hit me. T-ball was hit you before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so what happened?
Speaker 4:when uh, uh-oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 3:So what happened when uh tell me you were here?
Speaker 1:Well, first off, this one happened. I'm glad that you watching Erick. Oh hey, 15 years later, bro, why would you do me like that? I'm already out of bounds.
Speaker 4:No, you are not out of bounds. Give me, give me the backstory. Give me the backstory. Which game, which game are we talking about?
Speaker 1:We in the middle of the ball we in eighth grade.
Speaker 4:Okay, this is you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Okay, this is 40 years ago, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is 40 years ago, but guess what? I never got to talk to him. Oh, seven or eight, I'm talking to his ass now. Anyway, this Erick who I don't know his name, I just know his name was Erick. He was like the buffest no free shout outs. We here, we here.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, we on Gears last night.
Speaker 4:I say this there's a lot of Erick's out there, but the Erick I'm talking to.
Speaker 1:He don't think nobody knows.
Speaker 4:I know it last night.
Speaker 1:I don't know it last night. I'm already out of bounds. I'm already out of bounds. It was a 28 toss. You know, okay, I already know, I know everything. Okay, so I'm getting to the, I'm getting to the sideline. I'm already out of bounds. I'm just gonna get ready to walk back to the huddle and then Eric Khan.
Speaker 3:But it was like Bro, no homo. The lyrics was Good one.
Speaker 4:Good one, bro. I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1:But the lyrics, bro, it was loud like loud as hell, and it was so random, and I was like bro, okay, this what we doing, but they both like flew back from each other. I said thank y'all. So the next play what I did, though did nobody really just recognize this one, cause the first lick it just took everybody from surprise. I guess you know what I'm saying. Second play I just stomped on his damn arm.
Speaker 3:I stomped on his arm.
Speaker 1:I ran straight to him, just stomped on his arm and jumped on that joint and no, hey, it is what it is. It was in the 28th toss. Damn Marcus did so. You got me, but little little, you know me and you know I got your ass back.
Speaker 4:Eric, I'm gonna be watching you.
Speaker 3:Wherever you are in the world, please watch this and let us and come on here and tell your real story.
Speaker 4:Yeah, eric, reach out to us, dm us and you can come on, even if we just do it short, and we're gonna get the whole story, not just bones.
Speaker 3:I ain't got a lot of A's the whole story and I do gotta get my boy bones this fly with door Like bro.
Speaker 1:You really one of the best runner backs I've ever seen the best runner backs that did do nothing because of coach. Oh Lord, no.
Speaker 4:You're not even gonna do that.
Speaker 3:That's gonna be a different episode.
Speaker 4:That's gonna be a different episode.
Speaker 3:I'll be trying to give him his fly. He always wanna, he always wanna.
Speaker 4:He always wanna smoke right then and then.
Speaker 1:And I wanna give him another FU to the coach. I'm talking about Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3:FU no names.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, great, no name.
Speaker 3:Now that ain't gonna be no free shot, that's free smoke, but I'm just letting you know that, for like, like, like, for real, like you, really one of the best runner backs I don't ever seen. You know what I'm saying. Like people ask me about 38. Yeah, yeah, not in number 38. When you 38?, Hell I'm talking, I'm talking.
Speaker 1:In number 38,.
Speaker 3:Bo In number 38,. Bo was hard.
Speaker 4:I already know.
Speaker 3:But then, like in number 25, bro, no, definitely.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of course I couldn't go far, but hey, it is what it is. We all got our time and I do wanna wish everybody out there is actually doing it now, bro. Bro, do not take it for granted. Facts. Do not take it for granted, because it can get taken from you just like that. Facts. You know what I'm saying, so y'all can reach out to us, y'all can ask us for advice and stuff like that. Just because we didn't make it to that top level, that don't mean we gonna have advice for you. But yeah, do not take it for granted.
Speaker 1:That's ball, football, baseball, whatever.
Speaker 4:I love that man. You know we your biggest supporters, man. So shout out to you and what you did. For sure, man, I know, but that should be a whole separate episode which I'll think, but maybe, like it, will be the best athletes to come through this area.
Speaker 3:That's gonna start some conversation right, it will have a couple of extra, like if I formed a teammate, we'll have them on here too, cause I think our class has some of the best talent to come through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like we need to have people on here that actually have a story. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like, tell us what really happened, though behind closed doors, because these people would never know. You know what I'm saying Till you actually open up your mouth. As men, we tend to shy up and just put it in a box and just throw it in the closet you feel me.
Speaker 1:Well, sometimes we actually have to speak out and, hey, I feel like now's the time to do it, because these coaches out here can define your future. I don't know if y'all believe that or not, but they really can. You can piss them off one day and not be able to. Yeah, your whole career is in the trash, yeah, so definitely.
Speaker 4:I think that's a good topic and that may be a good place for us to stop before we get too much weight.
Speaker 3:Yes, y'all catch us on next episode, when we're gonna dig into all that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, that's a best athletes to come through this area when we say area, this county and the surrounding counties. And then we'll definitely get into the age old question. You know, does the coach not like me? Everybody hear that coach don't like me, coach don't like me. So look, hey, it's Super Bowl Sunday tomorrow. Make sure you watch our episode that's gonna be dropping tomorrow as well, episode two, part two. All right, y'all got that Clearly said podcast, it's me, it's me.
Speaker 2:It's change. Yeah, love me, love me, love me, love me, love me, love me yeah.
