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Draft Picks and Rap Tricks: Navigating NFL Moves and Hip-Hop Grooves

May 20, 2024 Clearly Said Season 1 Episode 8
Draft Picks and Rap Tricks: Navigating NFL Moves and Hip-Hop Grooves
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Draft Picks and Rap Tricks: Navigating NFL Moves and Hip-Hop Grooves
May 20, 2024 Season 1 Episode 8
Clearly Said
From field to studio, the rap game is just as competitive, and we're breaking down the latest in lyrical warfare and celebrity showdowns. We're scratching our heads over AI in rap: Is it the next big hit or just a gimmick? Drake's use of tech and Snoop Dogg's disapproval spark a fiery debate, while ghostwriting and its effect on authenticity get us questioning the rules of the game. And speaking of rules, we unpack the art of the public apology in the aftermath of hip-hop feuds, analyzing J Cole's recent backtrack. From Rick Ross's reputation to Kanye's never-dull moments, we've got personal anecdotes and hot takes on the drama that keeps the rap world spinning. Tune in for a candid exploration of music, ego, and the delicate dance of industry politics.

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From field to studio, the rap game is just as competitive, and we're breaking down the latest in lyrical warfare and celebrity showdowns. We're scratching our heads over AI in rap: Is it the next big hit or just a gimmick? Drake's use of tech and Snoop Dogg's disapproval spark a fiery debate, while ghostwriting and its effect on authenticity get us questioning the rules of the game. And speaking of rules, we unpack the art of the public apology in the aftermath of hip-hop feuds, analyzing J Cole's recent backtrack. From Rick Ross's reputation to Kanye's never-dull moments, we've got personal anecdotes and hot takes on the drama that keeps the rap world spinning. Tune in for a candid exploration of music, ego, and the delicate dance of industry politics.

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Speaker 1:

I want to y'all Ask me and I close it out, but we'll do the Chad you bring it back in Cause he brought us in the whole episode the mic.

Speaker 3:

Bring it back. So, I'm trying to get this nigga back as soon as he started talking Go ahead. No, for real, I still got to get this nigga man as soon as he started talking Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead.

Speaker 3:

No, for real, I still got to do this.

Speaker 2:

No, man, look this your boy Bone. Welcome back to Clearly Said Podcast. This is Chaz, this is Josh, and we back, man. We love to have y'all back into the uh, our, our, our, our feel.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying and we got a lot of things that's going on.

Speaker 2:

Uh, a couple things I want to talk about is, um, the diddy situation. Uh, I do want to go on the diddy situation, but we're not going to really just focus on that right now.

Speaker 1:

We was focusing on right now was so I wanted to talk a little bit about the nfl draft. Obviously the draft was um recent and you had a lot of people get some pics. Okay, um, that will get a lot of backlash about pics and the big pic that had a lot of backlash is michael pennix jr. Uh, washington's. Is it washington state or is that washington?

Speaker 2:

because I know the cougars are about picks and the big pick that had a lot of backlash is Michael Penix Jr Washington's, is it?

Speaker 1:

Washington State? Or is that Washington? Because I know the Cougars are the University of Washington. It's the University of Washington. Okay, so they're not the Cougars, they're the Huskies. Anyway, and I didn't follow him terribly close, but I did see him play some. And the boy Cole, the boy Cole. And so Atlanta picked him at pick number eight. But they just gave what's his name Kirk Cousins First Cousins, as Shannon Sharp called him $100 million guaranteed deal. So it's four years, $180 million contract with $100 million guaranteed. He'll turn 36 years old in August. Now we know now, after the whole Tom Brady playing until almost 45, that 36 ain't 36, no more, you're going to take care of your body and you're not taking a lot of hits.

Speaker 1:

You can last in this league at the quarterback position, but he's had a major injury. Was it Achilles and what else? Did he have? A shoulder injury, maybe, I'm not sure, but anyway he's had a major injury and he got paid by Atlanta and then they drafted another quarterback. Do you think that they drafted this quarterback to compete with him for the starting job this year, or do you think it's like hey, he can sit two, three, four years if we need to, because one day he's going to be the face of this franchise and he fit in this city.

Speaker 3:

Right, I think they drafted him just like you said. You said Like, for a couple years you know you riding the bench, but You're gonna be learning from A real deal vet Somebody. You know what I'm saying. So I mean I didn't see why they picked him but, like you said, he fit the city Like ATL Black quarterback Right. Who wouldn't be, who wouldn't want to be, a black quarterback in?

Speaker 1:

Atlanta right, right, right, a left-handed black quarterback named Michael. We've seen that before in Atlanta and it worked well for a while. Right, I wonder, will the organization try to bring Michael Vick back in some capacity to mentor Michael Penix Jr? I believe?

Speaker 3:

they should.

Speaker 1:

I think they should too, because a lot of stuff that Michael Vick went through at the time in the early 2000s, the tone of the league isn't what it is now. They let those guys, they let them express themselves a little more now than they did then. Like you had to be a lot more buttoned up then, kind of like an Allen Iverson situation. A hundred percent. Yeahverson situation a hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.

Speaker 1:

Michael vick was the ai of the nfl yeah right and and they didn't really understand I wouldn't say they didn't understand him in the nfa, in the nba, but the image he had is not what they wanted for the nba. They wanted it buttoned up, dressed up, very professional, yada, yada, yada, and he wasn't that. He was just what they call him, bubba Chuck. Yeah, bubba Chuck, he was just himself. You know what I'm saying. He was from where he was from and he had the raising that he had, and so that was a very interesting pick to me. I don't know who was y'all's favorite pick of the NFL draft this year.

Speaker 3:

My boy went to Washington from LSU, oh, jaden.

Speaker 1:

Daniels, yeah, that was a good pick.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was a good pick. Like he gonna do good at the end. My boy Malik, neighbors went to the Giants. What's that? 10 years after Odell? Just yeah it was 10 years 10 years after Odell got drafted in, he got drafted in my other boy shit three or four.

Speaker 1:

LSU players in this draft. Yeah, so you know LSU, you know we're gonna run the league soon.

Speaker 1:

Y'all always have a lot of players in the NFL, for sure, um, I mean, but they, they produce a lot of players. I know with Jaden Daniels, um, I thought he was an extreme. I thought he was could have been the number one pick. Yeah, you know, I'm saying I thought he could have been the number one guy. I watched Caleb Williams play some great player. He give me like a false sense of confidence, like almost too much arrogance to me.

Speaker 3:

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and they showed him that during the last half of the season. Man, how many games did he lose in a row?

Speaker 1:

They ended up going six and four right.

Speaker 3:

Like five yeah.

Speaker 1:

He started off great and lost five in a row. Yeah, I didn't even have the right amount of game.

Speaker 3:

I know one team torched them. I'm like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I think it's like a false amount of arrogance type deal. But I understand why these guys have that, because you know what I'm saying. You come up from 10, 12 years old playing, travel seven on seven and you're going all around the country and everybody's saying 7. And you're going all around the country and everybody's saying, ooh, you gonna be this, ooh, you gonna be that. Then you go to like Bishop Garmin or something like that, wherever he went to school, and you play as a starter for 3, sometimes 4 years. You may not lose but 2 or 3 games and them 2 or 3 games be the championship if you lose that. And so they, their head, head is already super big. You know I'm saying, and I don't know, I'm just, I'm just, I'm real big on the be humble and you know, and they added in the nil, so they add an extra.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I ain't gonna tell how much money he made last year.

Speaker 1:

You know I'm saying like you ain't, you ain't really tripping on going to the league.

Speaker 3:

You know I'm saying even though that's your dream, but you like. I mean, the nil deal ain't nothing compared to what he going to get, but he's still like I'm used to millions.

Speaker 1:

Right, I had it in college, the Marvin Harrison Jr. It was rumored that they offered him $20 million to come back. Is that true, trey?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Did you hear about that, Dang?

Speaker 3:

$20 million $20 million for a year is insane. I about would have stayed for a year of college ball. I You're a college ball. I about would have came back.

Speaker 2:

I about would have came back, I wonder why I want to stay paying Deion Center kids.

Speaker 3:

Not that much.

Speaker 2:

One point they're riding around in a Bentley, I think. Yeah, and he just got a new Tesla truck too. Yeah, he got a Cybertruck.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it ain't no 20 mil. That's insane. I'm sure he making some bread.

Speaker 3:

I think the he was like Bronny James and a couple more people.

Speaker 1:

And Bronny what he scored like six points the whole year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but we know why.

Speaker 2:

Did he enter the draft too Well he ain't fully entered.

Speaker 3:

He just put his name in it just to see where he would get picked.

Speaker 1:

If he ain't know where he would get picked, he's going to go back to college and he's going to end up going back to college because I don't think he got the chance, or he.

Speaker 2:

He might get picked up by the Lakers.

Speaker 3:

That would be horrible. That would be horrible, yeah, because I wouldn't, just I mean King James.

Speaker 2:

He already said he wanted to play with his son.

Speaker 3:

Then he also said yeah, but he going to play with him wherever he go.

Speaker 1:

So it ain't just got to be the L make it to the league on your own merit. You want to be able, because one day, bro, they're going to be there. You got to be in the locker room with these guys and they're going to be like, yeah, your daddy gone now, nick you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

In my opinion, he only got another year left. Dude, he got that.

Speaker 2:

He even said time, something about time.

Speaker 3:

He's tired, he's catching up with him.

Speaker 1:

He's tired, and I would be tired too.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad that we went to that Bro. Go ahead, you guys went to where.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to say like the playoffs right now, bro, I don't know. I feel like the younger guys are kind of being ushered in and it's their era type deal and it's like all right, y'all had y'all run. We here now cause Anthony.

Speaker 3:

Edwards is here a dog. This man is. I said this man is tearing these folks up for real.

Speaker 1:

What year is this for him he doing my boy like his third year, his three, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But KD can't catch a break with him, then he talking crazy to him yeah, but it's crazy, because that's his favorite favorite player all the time, but you got to go with that, nick, but you got to let them know I ain't finna back down just because you my favorite player.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I still want an autograph after the game, after we beat y'all. A couple of them. Facts Pitcher All that Jersey. You want a jersey swap?

Speaker 3:

All that, we can do, all that.

Speaker 2:

My question to Vince Braun from the end up being out the door, I'm sure KD gonna be next Stealth. You know what I'm saying? He's shying down who you think gonna be the face of the league? Anthony Ellis. You think he gonna be the face of the league?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I think Joss still got a shot if he can come back and get his self together.

Speaker 2:

What about the tall dude W? You don't think he's going to be the face?

Speaker 3:

He will be. You got to be American born, yeah, but they ain't letting no European or no France be the face of the NBA.

Speaker 1:

You got to be an American born player.

Speaker 3:

Like you got a couple guys, he's going to be a top five player in the NBA for sure but the face is going to be either Ja or Jason Tatum, somebody like that. Come on. Ja Morant, yeah, but if he pulls another gun, he's going to be the face of MDLC.

Speaker 1:

She'll be counting his home, wherever county he live in She'll be counting the corrections facility. You got to be an American-born player in order to be the face of the league. Now you can be the most talented player and not be American. You look at Joker. You look at what's his name Luka.

Speaker 3:

Luka.

Speaker 1:

You look at the Greek freak. I can't even say his last name, atena Kumbo. How do you say that?

Speaker 3:

I know who ain't the face of the league, his brother, no, the Nassus Bruh, the asses, the headbands Trad, yeah, so, but I'm thinking it's going to be a Ja Morant.

Speaker 1:

I would like to see it be Ja Morant. We're close enough to Memphis Like, if we all want that, the best player in the league, the face of the league, right up the road, cutting up, but cutting up in a good way. What? Year is this for him? I'm going to say this is five for.

Speaker 3:

Javon, he's been there for a minute. Yeah, he's been in there a little minute, because when he first came and his dreads was like super short.

Speaker 1:

Well, the last one don't count on the whole roster and ain't getting paid how long you been here 2019 2019.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's been at five yeah, look at the hair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's been a journey for my boy anyway, man, I know we had a bunch of stuff that we've been talking about before we got here and we weren't able to obviously record. Uh, but the rap beef we went kind of back and forth talking about the rap beef in the group message yeah, bone out of the whole rap beef. Everybody got to pick size. Right now, whose side you're going? Who you got?

Speaker 2:

man and it's several rap beats going on, but go so I feel like the biggest rap beef is with the drake and everybody drake everybody Yo. One V20, like that's basically how he what he said, and I feel like I feel like Drake Is doing, he's smart, he's doing it In a very strategic way, right, you know what I'm saying? Like with the AI and all that good stuff, bro, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Get it out, bro, go get a good one. Bro, go get a good one If you get the good one out. You don't have to go back.

Speaker 2:

What's the issue, bro you?

Speaker 3:

trying to sneeze. I get it, I don't try to sneeze. Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, man you interrupted me.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, bro, I feel like Drake. He's doing it a smart way, using AI to rap for him. Using AI to rap for him.

Speaker 1:

That is not. That's not smart. That is smart, that's not that was corny.

Speaker 3:

That just proved to everybody that you got a real deal. Ghostwriter. Nah, bro, that's smart bro, snoop Dogg didn't even like it.

Speaker 1:

What did he say? I didn't see what Snoop would respond. Why would you use Snoop Dogg? Didn't even like it. What did he say? I didn't see what Snoop would respond.

Speaker 3:

Why would you use Snoop Dogg to diss Kendrick? And you know if it came down to it. Snoop Dogg rhymed with the West Coast Snoop.

Speaker 2:

Dogg sent that season to the CIS too. That's the reason why he did it, did he, he did it, he made the lyrics, he owns Aftermath and they own the rights to Tupac.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I Aftermath, and they own the rights to Tupac.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

He owns Aftermath. Yes, well, he has, if he don't own the whole thing.

Speaker 3:

He's a part owner and they got ownership of Tupac. Anything Tupac in it. Give me that.

Speaker 1:

So tell me this who own that Snoop, snoop? Okay, so I would have been on J Cole's side.

Speaker 2:

J Cole is my favorite, until he apologized he was my favorite rapper, but he apologized.

Speaker 1:

And y'all let me know how you feel about this out there. It had a lot of people feel differently about the apologies. A lot of people like he can apologize. That's what's wrong with the community now. Did y'all want to see folks get shot? Ain't nobody?

Speaker 3:

getting shot. Kendrick and J Cole, they's not going to shoot each other, it's rap beef.

Speaker 1:

It's talking smack on the court. That's what I likened it to. If we playing one-on-one right now, you talk crazy about me.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking crazy about you?

Speaker 1:

We're not going to kill each other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but we're not going to kill each other. And not either Our fans might try to retaliate.

Speaker 3:

I can't hear what you're saying so.

Speaker 2:

that's probably the reason why he apologized.

Speaker 1:

And none of us. They don't advocate for the violence in the song either.

Speaker 3:

Kendrick and I feel like Kendrick J Cole share a lot of the same fans, so I don't think they would be on those. Right they do, I can't control what no fan is anyway.

Speaker 2:

His fans out here trying to get that one little glimpse of fame, bro, and they be on some stupid shit and they're going to go to prison trying to get that one little glimpse of fame. You gone.

Speaker 3:

I'm just like me. You know, everybody know I'm a diehard Chris Brown fan. I'm not finna go beat up a Quavo fan just because they beef.

Speaker 1:

I ain't, finna, do nothing to you by knowing somebody that don't know me, ain't no?

Speaker 3:

one paying me to do none of this.

Speaker 1:

I'm just a fan.

Speaker 1:

My thing was not that he apologized, but it's like you apologize in the middle of the game, like if we still playing, like us versus starvel, right, you're not. You're not gonna apologize to them. So, and you probably not apologize to them anyway. But you see what I'm saying, you're not gonna do it in the middle of the game and then say, well, I take it back. The man took the song off itunes, are you? Are you kidding me, bro? So, uh, I, I guess I just I ain't gonna say I switched to drake's side because, like you can't switch it up like that. I think Drake killed Kendrick.

Speaker 2:

That's just me Now, trey you can say what you want to say.

Speaker 1:

Hey, rick Ross snapped, though I think Rick Ross snapped. Now I don't know if he lied. That's my thing. Don't be in your rap lying. Did the man have a nose job? Did he get his body?

Speaker 3:

done, I don't.

Speaker 1:

I said damn, it hurt him, it hurt his credibility, bad oh, he posted that video.

Speaker 3:

Yes, he posted Like he. You know. You know how they be trying to post and delete. But somebody all we got their phone on screen Record.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's all.

Speaker 2:

Once you put it out there, it's out there, and what the hell Kanye had going on though, why he had to just jump in it. He did not slide.

Speaker 3:

You know him and Drake did beef for a while Because you remember, drake made it seem like he hit his wife yeah, yeah, what was that song?

Speaker 1:

Because he kind of like gave directions to his house.

Speaker 2:

He was like up the road or down the corner or something.

Speaker 1:

I'm giving your wife this State scheming.

Speaker 2:

Is that what it was State scheming, yeah, yeah, yeah, it might have been I ain't sure so.

Speaker 1:

but anyway, kanye, I'm a diehard Kanye fan, like when I first got my first iPod, ipod Nano. That I ain't going to say who stole it, but I'll tell you who I think stole it For real now. From the school. Was this Intramurals?

Speaker 2:

or something.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, it had the Dream album on there and it had College Dropout and Was College Dropout the first one, trey.

Speaker 2:

Nah, late Registration was the first one.

Speaker 1:

Those two. It had Late Registration and College Dropout. My brother bought me that and, man, I fell in love with his music then I'm so disappointed in this dude man I don't even understand where he is Like he finna start shooting porn. What Did y'all see that? Yeah, that's what he said. He finna release Yeezy porn. He's going to release Yeezy porn. What you can't even come correct on the song, bro, you worried about porn. I don't understand it, man.

Speaker 2:

He just reached to. He got to a certain level where he can just do and say he's just bored, but man too, much money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's bored, so he just I don't know, and nobody listened to like nobody took corrective because his wife can't say nothing to him.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I to like nobody to correct him because his wife can't say nothing to him. Yeah, sure, whatever he put out people don't stay in the bottle.

Speaker 1:

They just got to stop buying and not be sending him out, because I'd be like what's going on? What's the name? Said cam sales she, she shared a picture and he had on like a big coat, some big pants, a big fluffy boot and his wife was naked and she was like I just want to know is it hot or is it cold?

Speaker 3:

man, it's still crazy because, because you don't, you never know with them, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Man it's still crazy Because you know, you never know with them, man, but I don't know. I guess that's how it is in the weird Hollywood world. You said you wanted to kind of talk hit on Diddy. Yeah, I don't know what to think about this whole situation, because anytime it seems like something happens, you get people come out the woodwork with all kind of stories. Yeah, and I I be wanting to see the proof. Like, show me the proof. I'm not saying he did it, I'm not saying he didn't do it, but show me the proof, because everybody's saying oh, I got a story to tell, I got a story to tell. I can't just believe what you say.

Speaker 3:

That's all I want to know is it's a solid proof, because I'm tired of hearing well, he did this, ain't nobody, came forth with nothing, we ain't seen nothing. And it done slick, died down now, since the little beef stuff been going on, he hadn't been arrested either. Yeah, like, so like.

Speaker 2:

But I thought he did something. Uh paid some more money at some point What'd you mean?

Speaker 1:

I was listening to Like a settlement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I thought he had paid some more money.

Speaker 3:

No the only time he don't have to pay anything.

Speaker 1:

And I don't think she can talk about that stuff. It's probably like A gag order on her.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, it's done. Like she can't say Nothing else about it Cause she don't got paid. That's why we ain't been Hearing nothing about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, we not gonna hear About her stuff anyway.

Speaker 3:

Like somebody else Probably come forward. But, like I said, his gay assistant to all his careers yeah, ever since then the man still been in Miami riding bikes. Yeah, he still.

Speaker 1:

But see, that's what you do when you know you got lawyers that's paid, paid, paid, paid and they gonna take care of everything.

Speaker 2:

They gonna take care of you, gotta even mention it Just live life.

Speaker 1:

But honestly I hope that he didn't do this stuff, that kind of tears down the fabric of so many memories you have connected to him.

Speaker 3:

When it comes to music, All them songs, bro come on.

Speaker 2:

They done put out some great music back then I'm sure he's going to have a lot of shit to say if he get off.

Speaker 1:

He will Well, depending on if they put a gag word on him. I don't think he'll rap about it, though.

Speaker 3:

He ain't the best rapper.

Speaker 1:

No, he the type to come out with a documentary on something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he gonna make some money off of it he gonna come out with a fire documentary yeah and watch everybody else gonna be back on his dick again well that's what happened when you got money, I guess no diddy, no diddy, man, listen, we gonna stop right here.

Speaker 1:

Y'all, make sure to do what this video is telling you to do. Listen to me what's up everybody?

Speaker 2:

this is your boy bone from clearly said podcast. I want y'all to know. Now's the time that you can advertise your own products through our platform. All you have to do is just reach out to us through email, or you can just dm us make sure you do it. Man, now's your chance, now's your opportunity. Don't let it slip away. Um, now, we did see recently Deion Sanders' what daughter?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, his daughter. I can't pronounce her name. Is it Shalom?

Speaker 2:

Shalomah, something like that.

Speaker 1:

She play basketball.

Speaker 2:

Right yeah, because Shalom is like a religious term.

Speaker 3:

She done entered the transfer portal. She done entered the transfer portal Along with a lot of his players from the football team.

Speaker 2:

What is going on?

Speaker 3:

Well, I think as far as the football team is, it's clear day, it's favoritism. He don't talk about nobody but Shadua and Travis and Horn.

Speaker 2:

He don't even talk about Shiloh.

Speaker 3:

He don't even talk about Shiloh. You got two sons on the team, but it's like your other son is Travis, not Shiloh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, shiloh ain't that good, though he ain't, but you know.

Speaker 3:

But I mean like he ain't. Sorry now.

Speaker 2:

He can get on a team. Yeah, yeah, he'll be on somebody's team.

Speaker 1:

Now I heard this from somebody and he know who he is. He can share this and comment on it, the to, but somebody that knows somebody, when he was at South Carolina he wasn't going to get on the field. You know what I'm saying. Like they were talking about him by being quote unquote sorry, down there he was cocky. Yeah, he was cocky. So because I've seen him a couple times this year coming downhill and not bringing the wood.

Speaker 2:

But I'm guaranteed whoever said that if they got the ball and ran through the middle, they'll get their ass demolished too. Well, that's the thing you can't do that.

Speaker 1:

You can't just say just because somebody can't play to that level, they can't comment on somebody else playing that level. You see what I'm saying? Because he's at that level. That would just be like me saying me criticizing a bad shot that Kevin Durant made. If it's a bad shot, it's a bad shot. Of course I can't shoot like Kevin Durant, you know what I'm saying, but I still know a bad shot.

Speaker 2:

So y'all honestly think, all the like, all like, as far as the draft, y'all don't think he can get in no no team, yes, not even start just be on the practice team you Not now?

Speaker 3:

The games that I watched last year, him playing like the boy can play, yes, and he going to lay that wood he had some big-time plays too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, he did, I'm saying, but he ain't no dynamic, like he ain't.

Speaker 3:

He ain't Jimmy Horn, he ain't Travis, he ain't Shador yeah, he ain't his daddy.

Speaker 1:

And he definitely ain't his daddy.

Speaker 3:

He his daddy, and he definitely ain't his daddy. He can't even wear daddy cleats. But I'm saying though, but I'm saying though, like, but you still like how he talk about it. Like the other day he was on, were they on the pivot? What were they? Nah, that was all the smoke.

Speaker 2:

All the smoke. He was all the smoke. It's just him and Sh it'll be fine, yeah, and like he just Is it his choice. Do y'all think? Hey, I've been watching that social media stuff and like he don't really be around the family that much.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like who Shiloh? Yeah, I don't think he like all that nice cameras.

Speaker 2:

He probably an introvert too. You know what I'm saying, like the quarterback.

Speaker 3:

he love to be in front of Travis. Four straight plays yeah, At practice.

Speaker 1:

Nobody else out there. Lot was looking like. God damn Right. I don't know if the experiment is going to work and the reason I no no, I was just about to say I don't think it's going to work because of that. He too into Travis.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because another clip I seen. We all know how we used to be in practice. You, we all know how we used to be in practice. You know, we have a little back flaps out and stuff. This man told this man you need to dress like Travis, what I'm like. Why is it? Yeah, I can't even be my own identity because you want me to be like this man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's not going to bode. Well, he's his own person.

Speaker 3:

I'm my own person. Yeah, like this is like me at practice and the coach telling me you need to run like Bone. Bone ran a 4.8.

Speaker 2:

What the fuck. So I got this question.

Speaker 1:

How do?

Speaker 2:

y'all feel about Travis playing both sides of the ball.

Speaker 1:

I don't think it's new.

Speaker 2:

I love it Trying to get to the next level. I love it. It's new. You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

People don't like new man, it's not new, it's actually old. It's old Charles.

Speaker 3:

Wilson did it.

Speaker 1:

Dion did it Dora.

Speaker 3:

Jackson did it.

Speaker 2:

What I'm saying. New now, jabril.

Speaker 3:

Peppers, it ain't new.

Speaker 2:

It's new. Now it's coming back. He was the first one to do it in a long time, a long ass time.

Speaker 3:

Not a long ass time. The thing is, he was the first one to do it in a long time, a long-ass time. Not a long-ass time because it's only been like three or four years.

Speaker 1:

But the thing is that most people don't have success doing it.

Speaker 2:

I hope he have so much success doing it.

Speaker 3:

I do too, but I don't, and then he ain't no big dude, he not that man. He ain't skinny, but he playing like 190.

Speaker 1:

So what you think he should play corner or receiver?

Speaker 3:

What do you think he should play? Corner or receiver Shit. I like him at receiver.

Speaker 2:

I like him at receiver. I love him at corner, though.

Speaker 3:

I love him at corner.

Speaker 1:

He's locked down Dog man.

Speaker 3:

But it's just about when he get the balls in his hand. It's paused, but damn this shit crazy.

Speaker 1:

No, you ain't have to on that time, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

We got Koflo looking at me like.

Speaker 1:

I love more defense. No, no, no, no, I said defense, I love more defense too, but I just like when he can be a playmaker. He is a playmaker, I think he's so. Even on both sides of the ball they're really trying to figure out what he need to hone his skills in on. That's the problem is, if you playing both sides.

Speaker 3:

You can't practice. It's going to be good for him come draft day because they're going to be like. He's going to be a high pick, regardless of whatever they put him in. I see what you. That makes sense. I didn't think about that. Like if he don't end up, you know, God forbid, I hope he don't never get hurt seriously but like if he stay healthy, bro he's.

Speaker 1:

But you can't do that every year. Play 100. What did he play in that one game?

Speaker 3:

116 snaps.

Speaker 2:

A person that can play on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 1:

They not going to NFL. They finna pay you for that. They finna pay you for one position, bro, my boy.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sure if they pay you for one position, he going to get paid a lot just for that one position. Yeah, they'll pay him, they'll pay him.

Speaker 3:

Devin has to add DB. Sometimes I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 2:

He play receiver yeah and he they don't pay that nigga to bag.

Speaker 3:

Who else they use like that. I done seen a couple NFL players be used on both sides, but not like a lot of players.

Speaker 1:

Might just be like one of them trick players, but y'all remember what Devin Hester said when he was on the pivot. He said he think his problem in the NFL was he never focused on one position.

Speaker 1:

Either corner or receiver or return, but he didn't do one thing and so, like we just talked about, you know, if you got two things you ain't got one. I think he should pick, but that's just me. But I don't think the Colorado experiment is going to work anyway. It's too much favoritism, it's too much stardom Hype. It's too much hype. It's not enough focus on ball. It's not enough focus on just putting your nose down and working. Too many people leaving it's division in the family now because his daughter has left and gotten in the transfer portal. I don't think it's going to work.

Speaker 3:

Then he called her a citizen dumb, he did.

Speaker 2:

He said it was stupid, or dumb or something like that.

Speaker 1:

No, he said it about his daughter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was something like her decision was dumb.

Speaker 2:

Why did she choose to transfer?

Speaker 3:

I think because she had favorite. Like nigga, you bought me a young. You ain't paying no attention to me.

Speaker 1:

She ended up transferring, in my opinion, because I listened to what the mom said and what the mom said did make some sense. You bring her here basically as a walk-on, and the team already had their players. They didn't recruit Shalomi, whatever her name is. They didn't recruit his daughter. So when she gets there She'll walk on. Now I will say I heard she wasn't balling, no way. So Her last name's just Sandler, right Cause if you killing and we bring you here, you gonna get on the court.

Speaker 2:

If you killing you know what I'm saying, but if she not good, you better walk your ass On this damn team.

Speaker 1:

She finna walk it off. She just done, walked it into the transfer portal.

Speaker 2:

Where the hell is she going to go if she ain't good? She just committed to Alabama A&M when Alabama A&M? Okay, exactly, so she didn't have the skill to play at that level, then she was trying to go to LSU.

Speaker 3:

She aimed at like 5'6", 5'7".

Speaker 1:

She's short. She's not real tall at all. Well, I mean, that's average height for a woman.

Speaker 2:

She should have stayed her ass over there with her daddy and that free ride.

Speaker 3:

True, If I just was doing what the oldest boy do the media team, he making bank.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But he was cold too though I was going to say he played ball. I watched his highlights. I said he was actually good. The problem is everybody's being compared to Deion and you can't compare nobody to Deion. I think that's his problem. In coaching, you're this hard on people because you were Deion. You've always been successful on the field. The only down years he had was his last year with the Ravens, when he was number 37.

Speaker 3:

And he still had a pretty decent year to end. He wasn't even himself. He had a decent year, right yeah, 100% Another. He wasn't even himself. No, no, he was old man.

Speaker 2:

He had a decent year Right, so To be 30.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, he was 36. 100%.

Speaker 3:

But another thing I like how the 49ers drafted Trey Owen's son yeah, it's going to be.

Speaker 1:

They got his son.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know that Like fifth round.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know.

Speaker 3:

T-O. I think it's Tyreek Owens he played at like a smaller school but he ain't the biggest daddy. But they built up just a lot.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to have to watch his highlights. I saw where Jerry Rice's son got drafted. I know Jerry Rice, it was.

Speaker 3:

Jerry Rice's son, Terrell Owens' son, is he good?

Speaker 2:

Marvin Harris' son, marvin.

Speaker 3:

Harris' son, ed Reed, got a nephew and a little cousin that got drafted Frank Gore Jr. Ed Reed got a nephew and a little cousin that got drafted Frank.

Speaker 2:

Gore Jr.

Speaker 3:

Frank Gore Jr. And what about Chris McCaffrey brother?

Speaker 1:

he got drafted to the one that go with.

Speaker 2:

Kaitlyn Clark is Jerry Wright's son, good he aight, he aight if he ain't nobody y'all named like they daddies, but you gotta think who they daddies are, who is?

Speaker 1:

gonna be like they, daddy, I'm just saying them two are the greatest players ever played. You can get trained by the best in the world.

Speaker 2:

You should be all right.

Speaker 1:

No, that ain't how they go. Jett Johnson, oh yeah, yeah, shout out to Jett.

Speaker 3:

Hey man congratulations to one of our very own man, two below high Jett Johnson, signed with the New York Jets man. Yes sir, new York Jets man. Yes sir, yes sir, it's major.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's for the show. That's a big deal. Yeah, yeah, we definitely need to get him on there. You get him.

Speaker 2:

You hit him up, send him an email.

Speaker 1:

Don't DM him, do it the right way.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir, i'ma hit you up. Do it the right way. I'ma just send you this clip. It's up to you. If you respond, say it later. Yeah, yeah, beat me up now. He ain't little, no more.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, he never been little, he'll definitely get you yeah. But, man, you know man, hey, it's been a great show man. We appreciate y'all For tuning in, appreciate y'all For all, y'all support man. This my boy Bone, this my boy JPZ. We out this thing. Peace. It's my boy JPZ. We out this time. Peace. Outro Music.

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